Introduction:
Mr. Wu Ke:
Chief Representative and General Manager of Rohde
& Schwarz China Ltd
Graduated from Renmin University in 1985, earning Master
degree in Industrial and Business Management; used to be
Project Manager of CITIC Australia, Visiting Research Fellow
at the University of Melbourne and Chief Representative
and General Manager in China of W&G (Germany). In 1999
began serving as the Chief Representative and General Manager
of Rohde & Schwarz China Ltd.
Mr. Yang Shaofeng:
Manager of R&D Center of Rohde & Schwarz,
responsible for the development of new products and evolution
of new technologies, research and promotion of market and
business strategies. Long experience in fields such as RF
testing, system technology and software engineering.
Mr. Yang Ribo:
Manager for Business Expansion at Rohde & Schwarz, responsible
for the market and technological strategy, market planning,
development of new business and contact with domestic distributors.
Long experience in RF/microwave measurement, EMC technologies
and mobile telecom technological and marketing works.
Rohde & Schwarz in China
Wang Jing:
From the second half of last year, we the TD Forum began
a series of interviews of high-levels from TD enterprises
with Sina.com, in order to enhance the communication on
strategies of TD-SCDMA and China¡¯s 3G technology. There
have been 6 interviews till now.
Wu Ke:
I¡¯ve read it, excellent.
Wang Jing:
It¡¯s our honor to have the chance to talk with Mr. Wu on
these issues. At least half year ago, measuring instruments
are a weak point. Although many domestic enterprises are
in the business, but in my opinion, as there¡¯s no precedence
in this game of TD, no network ready to use, where no other
vendors succeeded previously. It would be good if an internationally
leading enterprise enter the testing equipment and instrument
industry, to keep TD tested and the technology functional,
and promote the industry. As one of the early participants
in TD Forum, how¡¯s the current development of Rohde &
Schwarz in Germany and in China?
Wu Ke:
Welcome to R&S. First let me give a brief introduction:
As we all know, Rohde & Schwarz is a well-known German
company of testing and measuring instruments and meters.
Founded in 1933, now it has 75 years of history. All the
products are developed around RF technology, including,
testing and measuring instruments and testing systems for
wireless communication and mobile telecom. There are also
products for other industries, such as air traffic control
system, ad-hoc wireless communication system, etc. Meanwhile,
a huge market for us in China is radio-wave detector and
radio direction finding systems. Now State Radio Regulatory
Commission (¡°SRRC¡±) and provincial commissions are all using
R&S products. It¡¯s the responsibility of the State Radio
Regulatory Commission to administrate and monitor radio-wave
signals in the air, what we provide is radio-wave monitoring
system. Another big business is the broadcasting transmission
and measurement, including broadcasting transmitter, and
monitoring and testing equipments related to TV and radio.
Wang Jing:
You don¡¯t do medical devices?
Wu Ke:
No.
Wang Jing:
Mostly wireless communications?
Wu Ke:
Our strength is at the testing and measuring instruments
of wireless communication, mobile telecom and video testing
and research.
Other strong point is at EMC, also a part of radio frequency
testing. Currently almost all electronic products have the
problem of RF radiation, interference and protection against
interference. Rohde & Schwarz is the biggest EMC testing
system supplier in the world. We have much advantage in
this field. At same time, in the field of mobile telecom,
the conformity certificate testing systems, such as conformity
certificate testing systems for GSM, WCDMA, CDMA and CDMA2000,
we all have industry-leading products. In this field, R&S
have good co-operation with organizations and institutes
of reputation, such as SRRC and CTTL. As soon as a new product
emerges on the market and certificated is needed, we will
provide corresponding certificate and testing system. In
this aspect, we are especially leading the industry.
Wang Jing:
Do you mean globally or in China?
Wu Ke:
Globally, we are even stronger in China. Our market share
in China is even higher than in other markets around the
world.
Wang Jing:
So you basically co-operate with national organizations
and institutes to provide radio-wave measuring instruments?
Wu Ke:
Yes. For example SRRC, who needs a lot of this kind of equipment
that are mostly provided by us.
Wang Jing:
When did R&S entered China?
Wu Ke:
The first official agency established in China was the technical
service center set up in 1985. In 1970s, this was before
the reform and opening up, the Chinese government agencies
bought a lot from abroad. We¡¯ve sold many products in 1970s,
and many of them are still in use till today. Our customers
said our products are durable.
Wang Jing:
Economic and durable.
Wu Ke:
We opened the first representative office in China in 1985,
and we began rapid development since then. Currently based
on our business model, we will keep close contact with governmental
organizations and institutes. Due to the rapid development
of China¡¯s mobile telecom and wireless communication, our
rate of development have been 25% in the recent 10 years.
We have sales, technical service and technical support teams
in China. We also registered fully-owned subsidiary in China,
mainly focus on providing radio-wave monitoring system and
technical service, as well as air traffic control system,
which is mainly used in airports. We help installation and
testing on the site.
Wang Jing:
Service and integration.
Wu Ke:
R&S set up a system integration company in China in
2002. In 2005, we decided to establish R&D base for
China TV standards. In the beginning of this year, we obtained
the certificate as broadcast and TV equipment manufacturer.
Our next step would be digital TV technology, where we believe
is very promising.
R&S has been always focusing on the TD market. Looking
back, the work of R&S in the field of TD began in 2001.
Rohde & Schwarz is the first company to provide TD R&D
testing solutions. We were in close co-operation with Siemens
at that time, and Siemens also had close co-operation with
Datang. And Datang needed some TD testing equipments while
it was developing TD.
Wang Jing:
I saw your products there.
Wang Jing:
How big is your Chinese team?
Wu Ke:
We have more than 200 people.
Wang Jing:
I heard your business scale is more than 1 billion RMB?
Wu Ke:
Our sale was above RMB 1 billion in the fiscal year from
July 1, 2006 to June 30, 2007.
Wang Jing:
It was 1.2 billion or 1.3 billion as I remember?
Wu Ke:
Slightly more than 1.3 billion, mainly on the market of
testing instruments and meters, monitoring equipment, as
well as broadcasting systems.
Wang Jing:
Let come back to telecom. On the market of wireless telecom,
what¡¯s the concept of your products? How is your product
line after 2G and through to WCDMA, CDMA2000?
Wu Ke:
Rohde & Schwarz mainly focus on radio frequency technology.
On the market of testing solutions, we have whole system
(mode) products. We have solutions at Rohde & Schwarz
for the technologies from 2G to 3G, for example WCDMA, CDMA2000,
and TD-SCDMA, even some technologies in the future. Meanwhile,
considering the application, our products are developed
aiming at high-end market, such as measurement instruments
for scale usage, as well as frequency spectrograph and testing
meters that help service and maintenance. Meanwhile, R&S
has quite a lot of advantage on the high-end market, we
have the solution for conformity certificate system, which
all belong to high-end market.
Wang Jing:
How are you good at adapting the local market?
Wu Ke:
We need to say, R&S is the best in technical service
and support among foreign companies in China. R&S is
very strict in this aspect. We have a global maintenance
system of three levels: level one service center, regional
service center and central service center. There are clear
definitions for each level, how capable it they should be,
what equipment they should have, what kind of meters and
instruments they should have, what components they should
have, etc. Currently we have three service centers in China,
respectively located in Beijing, Shanghai and Shenzhen,
mostly providing support to local customers. Shanghai and
Shenzhen are level one service centers and Beijing is regional
service center. We have three regional service centers,
one in Beijing, one in Singapore and one in Japan. It is
required that regional service centers are able to repair
98% products locally. And we can accomplish 100% products
locally repaired for our testing and measurement products.
Wang Jing:
So you have a multi-level service and organizational structure?
Wu Ke:
Yes. R&S has strict service and maintenance system.
We take service a pillar in our business.
Testing Instruments Leading
Technology
Wu Ke:
Now our customers grow to know that as the technology develops,
you should have technological background to sustain all
the future development, which is very important to the upgrading
for the users. Rohde & Schwarz has deep technological
background allowing constant innovation in products and
solutions. Meanwhile, we have a new idea to provide a more
flexible broadband platform allowing multiple testing solutions
on just one instrument. You don¡¯t need to change the equipment
for next new technology any more.
Now R&S has the highest market share on China¡¯s wireless
testing equipments. As a large cell phone producer, China
produces around 400-500 million cell phones a year. In those
cell phone manufacturers, R&S CMU200 wireless testing
equipment is most widely used. On the 3G International Conference
held in Macao in November, R&S released CMW500, which
the TD-SCDMA testing solution is based on. As abovementioned,
we have GSM, CDMA and WCDMA testing solutions, as well as
TD-SCDMA solutions. All these could be done on one platform,
the customer can choose all or some functions. Future developments
are also in our consideration. For example, future technology
LTE was in our consideration.
Wang Jing:
Does that mean you are quite successful in terms of price
or you have advantage in cost-control?
Wu Ke:
In terms of lifecycle cost, we do have obvious advantage.
In the long-run, you can keep using this platform that you
have on hand for future possible technologies if you now
buy a TD solution. It can be all done just by adding a few
modules and hardware, instead of changing all the stuff.
There is another problem for new machines: compatibility.
Some instruments are not compatible downward. That adds
to the burden of the users.
Wang Jing:
Right, without this, the users can¡¯t be easily satisfied
in details. Old companies have more experience.
Wu Ke:
Local companies don¡¯t have much technological experience.
Competition might be hard for them.
Wang Jing:
I used to work at Nortel, and Nortel was good at CDMA. What
I know is that a single product as CDMA95 has been made
a dozen of version just in Beijing. It was only make it
a little better on the basis of former version. This is
a progress of technological accumulation.
Wu Ke:
Actually the development of technology is a constant progress
of coming up with new testing requirements. Testing is the
frontier of the advance of technology. When a new technology
comes out, testing equipment shall not be less advanced
than the technology itself. So, testing is the frontier
of an advancing technology chain.
Wang Jing:
You have German technology supporting, you ought to have
deep understanding of the technology itself.
Wu Ke:
Without a deep understanding, you can¡¯t give a comparatively
good solution.
Tang Ribo:
Testing instruments and meters is about a technological
system. Even if you only make a meter, there will be more
problems concerning this instrument in the future. For example,
how to do the annual calibration? You ought to have a system
to support this meter. Without annual calibration, you won¡¯t
be able to pass ISO9000 certification. Manufacturers like
Motorola and Nokia would certainly require calibration on
the meters every year. To establish a calibration system,
you have to invest very much. We have such calibration systems
in China, in correspondence with the government requirements.
It is very important to provide corresponding service to
meet their calibration needs and technological updates.
Wu Ke:
ISO9000 is a system about quality. After you have tested
the mobile phone, there will be inaccuracy in one or two
years. You needed calibration to recover those inaccuracies.
And this requires equipment and systems with higher accuracy
to recover. This is a high demand in testing, we have 6
automatic calibration systems in China.
Wang Jing:
The upper level of calibration must be your product, because
it is used for calibration of your own product.
Tang Ribo:
We are government certified.
Wang Jing:
In terms of quality standard, you accept national standard.
However in terms of technology, if a company needs to do
calibration over the equipment that they product on their
own, the upper level equipment should not be generic. Am
I right?
Wu Ke:
If you want to do calibration to the whole instrument, you
need a whole system. And there are many devices in the system,
such as amplifier, etc. You need to configure this whole
system before it is able to do calibration on those factors.
Meanwhile, there is software, which adds to the complexity.
If we want to caliber a wireless comprehensive testing system,
it costs us hours and the calibration report is very long.
Sometimes we could se calibration reports in only several
pages from certain calibration agencies, I don¡¯t think the
definition of ¡°calibration¡± is quite the same.
Wang Jing:
Is this calibration system sold on the market?
Wu Ke:
No.
Yang Shaofeng:
Calibration is a conveyance of standards. And in the whole
system, the original certificate is the same. Actually there
are no specific requirements to what certificate do we use,
which system or meter do we use for the whole system. However
Rohde & Schwarz is the first foreign company that has
national aptitude as calibration lab.
Wu Ke:
Other than maintenance and service, our technical service
center is also government-recognized calibration lab. Also,
we are the first foreign company to obtain this aptitude;
we are entitled to issue calibration certificates to equipment
and meters representing the government.
Wang Jing:
Why I want to be clear about this is I want to know how
the benchmark is. Because, in some cases certain curves
can¡¯t be passed, there is always a process.
Problem of TD Is not about
Technology, but Market Prospect
Wang Jing:
How is your progress in TD-SCDMA?
Wu Ke:
We are the first company to provide TS-SCDMA R&D testing
instruments, and our first products were mainly signal source
and frequency spectrograph. But frankly speaking, R&S
has been conservative. We¡¯ve been tracking the R&D progress
of TD-SCDMA in China through these years. We¡¯ve been considering
development of relevant products according to the market
reality in China. On of the final great decision was the
establishment of China R&D Center of Rohde & Schwarz.
And the major research target is the testing solution for
TD-SCDMA.
Wang Jing:
Mainly for TD-SCDMA?
Wu Ke:
Yes, but the research outcome is not yet there.
Wang Jing:
I think it should be a decision from your headquarters to
enter TD business, am I right?
Wu Ke:
Yes.
Wang Jing:
You involved in the equipment and solutions of TD-SCDMA
from 2001. So, as you decided to establish a R&D center
into TD-SCDMA, does that indicate the headquarters of R&S
has shifted their assessment of TD?
Wu Ke:
Yes, we could say so. Actually there is a process. In 2001,
we provided signal source and frequency spectrograph solutions.
At that time, the headquarters were always tracking and
developing TD products. From 2003 and 2004, we began sending
engineers to Germany to participate in the R&D. I take
this as a transition from development at the headquarters
to let Chinese engineers participating in the research in
Germany.
Wang Jing:
You mainly do the assessment from the technological aspect
or according to the market environment of China?
Wu Ke:
Certainly we did technological assessment, however we also
gave importance to the market. Because it is no doubt that
R&S has the technological capability to do TD, the problem
is market prospect. The question is when we start and how
much do we invest.
Wang Jing:
Actually, we I was talking with other multinational companies,
such as Qualcomm and Agilent, I¡¯d ask the same questions.
That is to say, since TD began in 2001, there had not been
disastrous technological problem in the 8 years. For multinational
companies, most of their attention is paid on market assessment.
After these years of observation, R&S should have your
own conclusive opinion on the market. Shall we do it? Is
this market worth tracking? I think there should have been
a clear perception at the headquarters of R&S before
you could set up a R&D center on July 1, 2006.
Wu Ke:
Yes, there should be. Actually I was in this process. I
have been discussing this issue with the headquarters. As
to China, we¡¯ve been communicating with the headquarters
on the development of TD-SCDMA, its future, and market reaction.
This is the policy-making procedure at R&S. Of course,
through this we can see: the technological maturity of TD-SCDMA
was accelerated, and the market prospect is wider and brighter.
So the decision-making of the company is easier and clearer.
As a German company, R&S has been careful in making
this decision. However, when we are determined, R&S
will stick to the plans.
Wang Jing:
How many employees do you have at the Rohde & Schwarz?
Wu Ke:
We have a dozen researchers working on TD. However, the
research into TD-SCDMA is not only done here in this R&D
Center, we also have experts in Germany. Germany and China
are doing is at the same time.
Wang Jing:
How many products have you released on TD-SCDMA technology?
Wu Ke:
First is the signal source and frequency spectrograph solutions
supplied to Siemens for the development of TD-SCDMA in 2001.
Also there is the certification of conformity, R&S supplies
conformity testing solutions.
Meanwhile, while we are developing TD technology in China,
it is now in experiment. Upon the network assess test of
terminals, there were not conformity certificate systems
available in China or around the world. When we provided
signal source and spectrograph for TD, they were the first
experimental testing systems for TD-SCDMA cell phones.
The other is the UPL and UPV audio testing devices used
at CTTL.
Wang Jing:
Many types of equipment at CTTL are from you.
Wu Ke:
Yes, many are from us. We are leading in the field of certification.
We did the first system in this field, and this is first
TD terminal network access testing system developed in China,
it¡¯s about audio conformity. Meanwhile we provided to Shanghai
Datang with an analyzer called CRTU-G. This analyzer was
for the switching test of TD and GSM. In this field we supplied
much equipment to Shanghai Datang. We also have contacts
with chip vendors, we provided a lot of testing instruments
to T3G and Datang.
Wang Jing:
Mostly all the chip vendors.
Wu Ke:
This is one of our strategies.
Wang Jing:
Mr. Wu mentioned you have many partners, and specifically,
do you have cooperation with operators such as China Mobile,
as the 10-city scale test is going on?
Tang Ribo:
In the current experimental network, the government invests
much to the equipment suppliers. However, we also give much
support to them, for example, many testing equipment used
in R&D, production and onsite testing. As to China Mobile,
they had a bidding of testing meters and they bought a lot
of R&S frequency spectrographs for the interference
test during their network construction. We also provided
some measurement equipment for network planning. Meanwhile,
we have provided a lot of instruments such as frequency
spectrographs in the development stage of TD network. This
is to have a clear notion about the interference with TD,
GSM and even PHS cell phones.
Wang Jing:
No matter testing services of the government, operators
and equipment manufactures, you all have deep engagement.
Independence Is the Biggest
Advantage of R&S
Wang Jing:
Respecting testing instruments and meters, certainly there
are some other international and domestic companies in the
business. So in your opinion, what is the unique advantage
of Rohde & Schwarz in this competition?
Wu Ke:
We could say that the biggest advantage of Rohde & Schwarz
lies in the advanced technology. For with many years¡¯ accumulation,
we have strong technical accumulation in the fields of testing
and measurement, especially mobile communication and wireless
communication. With this strength, products developed are
comparatively leading in various aspects of quality and
performance, etc. only if the developing direction is oriented
correctly.
Apart from that, Rohde & Schwarz has an advantage which
others may not agree. I also talked about it with the president
of our company that why does not R&S get listed? He
said why shall we get listed, the current structure is the
biggest advantage, we can make long-term investment without
pressure and external interference will not influence me
so that when making decisions, foresight and objectivity
will be added. If we get listed, we will get no return of
so much investment in short time and board of directors
will not agree. Besides, if you loan money from bank, it
is unfeasible if the bank can not see your return in a short
period.
So Rohde & Schwarz has the independent and autonomy
of operation and decision. It will not be influenced by
short-term effect, only if with correct judgment and decision,
it can get long-term view, I think this is a peculiarity
of R&S and from long-term view, it has strategic consideration.
Wang Jing:
Generally German companies always deal with issues in this
way. They have delicate thoughts.
Wu Ke:
Yes, German companies are like that, they have delicate
and thoughtful considerations when they are planning a project.
They do lots of work before making decision, they are careful
and sometimes we feel that it is so slow for German companies
making decision. However once the decision is made, there
will be no problem in implementation, all departments including
headquarter and local offices must exert to carry out this
decision and the implementation speed is comparatively fast.
Tang Ribo:
Regarding the competition with domestic manufacturers, actually
apart from the leading technology, we have independence
in decision as well as view on long-term market and comparing
with domestic manufacturers, we can provide solutions based
on platform ¡ª¡ª we can provide not only TD, but also WCDMA
and TD is a system which can not exist independently take
terminal for example, it must be dual-mode terminal. While
domestic manufacturers can only provide TD, but they deal
with TD as well as GSM, even WCDMA in their product line,
then our advantage is emerging for we are an all-around
testing platform.
Local Companies Will Face
the Test of Internationalized Service
Yang Shaofeng:
From our aspect, actually TD is a sustaining process and
from medium and short term, the success of TD depends on
the multiple modes which are equal to dual-mode market at
present.
Wang Jing:
At present it is 2.5-mode.
Yang Shaofeng:
From long-term view, TD also faces the problem of internationalization
and we will never stay on the base of TD-SCDMA. As a local
company, the development of China on this aspect decides
the future of TD, so the success of TD can not be regarded
as periodic success and we can not say that it will succeed
if we provide the network in 10 cities because it needs
development.
So R&S pays much attention on it, just now General Manager
Wu mentioned that actually we are the first also the only
company providing TD signal test solution in 2001, we have
long-term layout for the future and we will persist on the
developing work on technology. If TD heads into internationalization
in 10 or 15 years, for local companies, the problem whether
they can provide internationalized service will emerge.
So it is not corporeal.
Tang Ribo:
We deals with TD from an overall situation, domestic companies
may outspread from TD point while we are from an overall
situation with which long-term view and many current technology
standard systems are included, then TD will be considered
as a part, but if TD is considered separately, there may
be many potential problems when you make outspread.
Wang Jing:
For local companies, some of them want to lead their companies
to be bigger and stronger by the chance of TD, obviously
this is not a smooth process for there are many factors
of accumulation and time as well as experience is required.
Rohde & Schwarz has a history of more than 70 years,
it is an international company and you already have a big
platform and TD is a program of it. For those local companies,
they may outspread gradually from the point of TD and there
will be many difficulties. But we hope that they can find
a way out although much endeavor is required.
Of course, from TD industry, as the principal of TD-SCDMA
forum, we see that the technology itself faces a big problem
of testing and spreading its network, I certainly do not
hope that testing instruments and meters are at immature
state and supposing that a new technology meets with an
immature testing meter, the development will be a problem.
That is why Ministry of Information Industry, Forum and
Union appeal to top-ranking manufacturers to deal with testing
instruments and meters not long before.
Wu Ke:
When the last Summit Meeting is held, Vice Director Zhang
Xinsheng asked how about the field of testing instruments
and meters.
Wang Jing:
Right, he concerns much about it, we also contacted Agilent
and Tektronix for this, now we are facing a bigger problem,
that is, how shall we introduce TD testing instruments and
meters, and if it is unsubstantial, the entire system will
have no insurance, then this become a big problem.
Tang Ribo:
From our understanding, although testing does not take much
quotient in industry chain, it is a key node for communication
refers to interconnection and inter-working. A public standard
should be realized to interconnect and inter-work and a
public reference should be supplied. Connection with each
other can be ensured only if connecting with it, or else
you need to connect with each one which is complex. At present
communication can be realized easily for there are few manufactures,
while once manufactures increased, it is impossible for
a mobile manufacture to communicate with other manufactures
which are changing ceaselessly.
So, testing companies play a key role providing a public
standard testing equipment, technology content involved
is high, the main problem is that we have a big technical
barrier to form a public testing environment for reference
absolutely by meters in the situation that we have nothing,
of course, technology may be not the problem, then what
we concern is how big the market is. This may be a big problem.
Wang Jing:
If the government supports you, how many can you sell out
after production?
Wu Ke:
From the view of industry, testing meters must be supplied,
but from the view of enterprise, benefit is required, the
outcome should be considered after investment.
Wang Jing:
How much can you earn from 3G?
Wu Ke:
We already take much quotient in Chinese WCDMA market.
Wang Jing:
That is, you do not have much presents?
Wu Ke:
Not much, because after all, R&S is an enterprise, even
a private enterprise and it belong to the two families of
R&S till now.
Wang Jing:
So comparatively speaking, for companies like yours, issuing
licenses is not the key factor.
Wu Ke:
But we concern much about it for it relates with the development
direction and scale of the market in the future. R&S
concerns about TD market all long, the headquarter also
concerns the problem whether it stays in China Market only
in future or outspreads to other markets outside China,
the decision made for China is with significant reference
value and we even concerns about it till now. Last week
we attended meeting in Germany, besides other subjects,
we mainly discussed the TD situation of China, R&S pays
much attention on this market, now R&S feels that both
TD technology and market has a tendency of speeding up and
of course, the development of the next step needs endeavor
and decision of every parties. He hopes that this market
rises up and we can follow this market, so R&S quicken
to make investment in TD from one year before.
The ultimate success of TD
lies in commercial operation
Wang Jing:
If this market rises up, what products can you provide?
Tang Ribo:
We have signal source, spectrum analyzer, signal analyzer
and channel simulator, etc. which can satisfy the demands
of development and production. We concerns about the development
of TD for the factor of market and if there is a clear saying
denoting the scale of the market this year, we will make
corresponding forecasting.
Wu Ke:
There is another problem, i.e. how about the long-term development
of LTE?
Wang Jing:
Actually it is impelled together by some key manufacturers,
Ministry of Information Industry and Academy of Telecom
Research and we held a meeting during the last Telecom show
on TD evolution. Recently, it goes on by dealing with HSDPA
and the forum pays attention on it actively.
Wu Ke:
Because the development of TD technology depends on the
development direction of the technology in the future.
Wang Jing:
Right, in my opinion, how TD marches on depends on the success
of China first, currently technical barrier is not the main
problem, then the point is how to introduce it to the market
and how big the market is.
I think, TD will surely get its outcome in China first,
but it needs time and can not realize soon. 08 is a year
in which you need to exert your strong suits and TD will
go on only if the network is ready. I am confident for 26.7
billion RMB has been invested in it.
Wu Ke:
From the view of prospect, if the decision is correct with
technical support and proper commercial operation mode,
TD is expected to have a long-term development.
Wang Jing:
I think if we do well in home, it is expected to stride
forward into international market. Recently 3G made a big
progress and Qualcomm also notes this, 384K is not 3G, data
rate must reach more than 1M at least so that TD can support
various application to stimulate market demands.
Tang Ribo:
Actually TD has big chance in the great background of 3G
for there is support from Chinese government. But if the
overall situation of 3G is not good, the development of
TD will be influenced for it is the problem of application
and users¡¯ demands.
Wang Jing:
Previously when we mentioned 3G, it was took as WCDMA with
384K and this definition of 3G is unsuccessful for 10 years
past from the year of 97, 3G network spreads all over the
island of Taiwan with twenty or thirty million people but
we have only two or 3 million users till now, so basically
it is unsuccessful. After HSDPA rose up, the global 3G market
got new drive power and the growing tendency speeds up.
China introduced TD when 3G is popular and they made hard
endeavor of 7 or 8 years. However after all it marches towards
success step by step. Whatever TD situation for commercial
use is, China brought up many talents and companies and
it got big success for it experienced the entire process
from standard to commercial use.
Tang Ribo:
The ultimate success of TD depends on commercial operation
but not issuing licenses and issuing licenses is only the
first step. Whether it can get success eventually, the commercial
mode is important, that is, the point is how many users
we can get, whether these users do business with it and
whether operators can earn money. If we start from this
point, the same problems with 3G will emerge after TD is
introduced, that is, what is your business, what your operation
mode is and whether your operators can earn money.
Wang Jing:
Right, technology is not the problem and the present problem
is how the market accepts it with is of vital importance
for TD.
Wu Ke:
We can get the technology and ability, then what is your
operation mode in the future? Or from the view of enterprise,
what is your profit making mode? For users, what is your
service mode? Loosing money operation is impossible for
long term development. This is the key factor whether TD
can outspread in the future. We hope the market is clear
and R&S can find a clear direction. But there is a point
can be clarified that in the field of TD, R&S will not
drop behind the market and this is our principle.
Wang Jing:
OK, we talked much today and it is nice. Actually forum
serves for transnational corporations much and we hope that
we can really do something in the field of TD representing
these companies and provide some help. Forum has the advantage
of platform, hundreds of companies are our members, only
for core members, we have 40 or 50 companies and we consider
doing something with these advantages.
Wu Ke:
I think forum provides us with a platform of communication
and that is good. We also hope to keep close contact with
forum and we can get more information by communicating on
this platform.
Wang Jing:
OK.
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